I agree with Sydney. I was sexually abused in my home by a family member. Can my Fortuna have some healing effect? Is there anything I can do to help her? I was wondering how abuse would play itself out if the Nessus-Deja synastry conjunction is in Cancer. This is not to say it would be better or even easier. This is not a dark aspect, either. -Eros conjunct their personal planets ( Sun,Moon,Venus, Mars etc.). Btw he just got married to a girl whose moon is conjunct with his nessus+sun+true node AND also, her dejanira is conjunct with his moon !!! Ami, hello. Most potent are Eros-Venus, Eros-Ascendant, Eros-Psyche, and Eros-Mars links. Same natal chart of a man who is 41-42 years old. My eros was conjunct someone's mars and I did feel like whenever he was sexual, it was very erotic. That can be justified through basic psychology, I think. So the theory doesnt check out. We are mesmerized, enchanted, and even obsessed with this person. Thats your opinion. I think her NN is right on his 7th house axis for one. Sorry if this came off mean, I just dont want people to get scared over having one aspect when astrological interpretations are not set in stone. With asteroids, one must be an intrepid explorer because there is precious little PRACTICAL info out there. I didn't eroticize his everyday actions. I have 8 scorpio ascendant and he 4 scorpio jupiter. Im not meaning to argue if it sounds like it, its just damaging for ignorant people to come find posts saying that bad asteroids are always going to play out no matter what they do because that leads them to believe that everything in astrology is linear and has only a small set of possibilities that people cannot escape. This ascendant descendant conjunction alone does a very interesting thing in the chart. What does that mean? In this video we will discuss the aspects between #Sun and #Eros in a synastry chart in Mix - Eros and Sun in Synastry! I found your site a short time ago and learned a lot, very descriptive in the analysis, I love it! What about a mars 8th house overlay also trining pluto? Hi, Moon/Pluto as a conjunction is not dark , per se. His Amor is in trine and sextile to a few of her inner planets. Positive aspects speak to a generally happy marriage, but there is still karma to be worked out now. Dejanira is the victim asteroid. I mean, a persons life is complicated. Sorry if its too much info xx, Ps, sorry! I'm really only just starting to get to know Eros well, and Lilith is still somewhat elusive. In Roman mythology, Eros was known as Cupid. And my dejanira conjunct his Venus. DO they have Moon trine Moon or Moon conjunct Moon. Eros in synastry Tell me, what is it like? What does that mean? If other aspects and planets in the chart point to marriage, then it was probably a romantic, attractive marriage where the couple did not see each other all day, did not share a bedroom, had a large household staff, lived apart, etc. The ex that abused me while I was pregnant had his Nessus conjunct my MC. I hear your concern. This transit is positive as well as painful, destructive and revelatory. I ve met a man who have his mars = my moon (1) in taurus and square my uranus (2) in aquarius. 3) Angles in the houses & aspects. At the end of the day, that is all this god and goddess really ask for.". One person is kind of riding the other one in this. Lilith brings up deep and primal sexual energy sometimes accompanied by feelings of anger and rage. what do you think about a double-wammy moon sextile pluto and pluto square moon in sinastry? The Five Darkest, Sexual Aspects in Synastry There is attraction based on dark forces like rage, pain and abuse. It's been suggested that an understanding of someone's natal Eros gives you the keys to unlock their erotic desires. It may be the abuse takes place in the home or within the family. When the son grows up, he will likely be the abuser,too. This is another clear-cut past life astrology marriage aspect, although it isnt as heavy. (Conjunction, Opposition, Trine, Sextile, Square! In our synastry chart we have moon trine pluto and mars square pluto. Lilith, both Black Moon and Asteroid 1181, brings up deep and primal sexual energy sometimes accompanied by feelings of anger, rejection and rage. Even with a trine this 8th house effect enhances both the good and the bad ? Could it be a past life meaning? 5. xxx, This may make Nessus and what it means i.e abuse, something that is a deep subject with you and on one which you contemplate. OkI really cant comment on the sign, per se. I was thinking that maybe one of the lesser factors could be moon/mars contacts? Venus mars aspects In my opinion, it will play out. She is deeply alluring and irresistible. Keep an eye on anyone who is near her. First of all Lilith is for . Two celestial bodies are in conjunction when they are very close to each other, often in the same sign but never more than 8 degrees apart. Karmic astrology synastry is suddenlyreally interesting when you want to look at your own relationship. I am new on this and finding all this information was revealing, so now I will stick to questions about my dejanira and nesuus. Composite: moon conjunct Neptune, Venus square Pluto, Black moon lilth conjunct Pluto square mars conjunct ceres..any explanations on this type of relationship would be very helpful!!?? . The Saturn person may kind of ride the back of the Mars person. The nessus and deja conjunction is in Cancer. I had this excerpt saved from somewhere on the internet, but don't have the original source. What about mars, Saturn and Jupiter in Virgo? Lilith Synastry Sun and Lilith conjunct in the synastry chart When Sun person's Sun and Lilith person's Lilith combine, each person awakens the deep desire for individuality and creativity in each other. You, as the Pluto in the trine with his Sun and venus could kind of see through him lol, Thank you Amy for your reply We are both passionate, but luckily, by nature, not violent people thank God . Most karmic astrology synastry reports dont take Chiron into account nearly enough. Lilith on the ic is one of the more potent lilith synastry to have even in the composite. Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com 2000 "In Greek art Eros was depicted as a winged youth, slight but beautiful, often with eyes covered to symbolize the blindness of love. Yes, this is all very true but the charts exist outside of time, too. It took me a minute to think about the wounded bird types, but I think you might be right. YES, your Deja conj his NN will make you his victim, to put it really directly. I should have replied to the previous post, as it was a continuation of the conversation we had started. Also, It doesnt suit me. Is this a synastry, Ariel? His Nessus conjunct her midheaven. I guess I was just worried in general, just in case :P. how about deja conjuct saturn 1 degree. This aspect almost certainly speaks to karma from a past life marriage. Also, our vertexes are separated only by 7 degrees. I will try to maintain rock solid boundaries and not get led into any weirdness as nothing is amiss yet. If you want to ask about 2 aspects, I will try to answer but an answer on the whole relationship needs an entire chart reading. Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. That`s very interesting information. His dejanira is in opposition to his vertex. I was wondering how much weight can have the orbit in a synastry.. for example, I have with a guy a Venus trine Pluto, but 5.46 orbit.. does it counts? This relationship can be really passionate, fiery, and exciting. I was wondering.. Are Sun/Mars (double whammy) and Venus/Mars (double whammy) dark aspects in synastry? Yes, their Moons are trine both in Earth signs. Children create their future adult personalities by learning from the adults around them and their interactions, so it makes sense, sadly. You don't need to BELIEVE in Jesus to come here and/or to contact me. You are welcome to your opinion but I stand on what I wrote. Making people fear being in relationships over tiny aspects that do not have an incredibly high chance of playing out is not healing to others. The Moon person feels comforted by the Sun person's energy and the Sun person feels like they can be vulnerable with the Moon person. I sense Saggi. My dejanira is in opposition to his sun and without any other aspects. 4) Conjunctions to the Axis/Angles = very strong bond. Moon conjunct Pluto is the strongest of the Moon/Pluto aspects because the conjunction trumps any other aspect in strength. tell me your story, if you care to, Juice dear. It exposes our weaknesses and provides us a chance to deal with them constructively. It creates a synastry energy where all the houses for the whole chart are conjunct to their opposite house in the partner's chart. It can also happen that there are changes in your love life when the Vertex is triggered in your birth chart by some transiting planet or progression. Uranus is kink, so you do the math. Not all people with a prominent Dejanira are victims I disagree.I think they will be until they can truly overcome it with God. ? The chart allows one to see oneself. Pluto trine Venus, Venus quincunx Pluto Further, there is such a thing such as free will. His natal mars, lilith, pluto conjunction is conjunct my ic and I've distanced myself from him knowing that he has wayyyy too much power over me, but every time I see him I can barely stand and immediately start shaking I am glad my post was helpful! When these relationships end, it is not pretty. Amazing emotional+sexual chemistry though there was some bumps in the way. This totally depends on someone as a person. . What about Nessus conjunct Dejanira in synastry and there is no abuse whatsoever, what would that mean? I know this is not my website, so I cannot change how you write and it is not my business to dictate how you write. But, I will take sides with Sydney on this issue. They often indicate a desire to sexually conquer/arouse one another. "I want to welcome you to my website. There is no superficial way to get to know Lilith through the experience of the erotic. It is a true soul mate aspect, to me. I dont really understand the aspect you are asking about. You made my day, Juice and Welcome! Please, keep me posted though but, yes, please, be careful, Love! I love you and hope you write to me to say hello or to ask questions. the Moons will make for best friends. If you do this, Astrology will serve its purpose, which is to warn and alert people to possible problems and even dangers. If you have a dominant Dejanira, you will be a victim. It wasn't enough for me to have sex with him though. Is this something that reliably and consistently is reflected in a variety of different charts? That might be how theyre playing out their Nessus-Dejanira, though Im not sure since they also have a lot of mutual Uranus and Pluto contacts to inner planets and both Ascendants. Im curious about that conjunction to my crushs NN, though..do you really think it could mean something? vertex conjunct moon and ascendant in scorpio can make it dark too? Saturn draws the couple together due to karma, but Juno and South Node aspects offer more of a choice. If that does not float your boat, feel free not to read. Isis Conjunct the Vertex. I could not agree more with this. I would say that this relationship would be INTENSE but in a beautiful way.Please, tell me about it! . I really have not looked at these aspects in signs, though. That is what I was saying. Not eros. The conjunction is, in my opinion, the only aspect that clearly dictates a marriage between these specific people. Thanks SO much for your kind words. I just got into astrology a month ago and find it fascinating. It does indicate that both partners knew each other in a past life, but other romantic aspects are needed in the chart to create an energy strong enough for a marriage. Does the man walk up to you and tell you that he wants to abuse you because you seem like the perfect victim? I always seem to have the opinion that these people are somewhat evil yet gullible and innocent and therefore they deserve to be abused. However, if you want me to help you to find Jesus, that is why I am here. Things DO offset things but one must look at everything to see a final answer which is my goal when doing charts.I am not trying to sell myself here, just trying to show that your question is too deep for a quick answer, my Friend. I've never experienced it myself, but have read that Lilith/Pluto contacts are also intensely sexual and even violent (particularly the opposition). Eros-Psyche: Eros and Psyche are natural mates. Hey there! To me, you may really struggle with falling into the victim role and would have to keep pulling yourself up over and over until you get real traction which could take some time, oh im sorry. That is why it feels so life and death. Thank you, Eros in Synastry seems appropriate to discuss for this time of year. woman s Dejanira and Juno, ( 445 and 432 Scorp ) both conjunct mans Eros and Chiron, (510 Scorp, 530 Scorp ) and both OPPOSITE mans Nessus (6 Taurus) It seems like sexual abuse is an emotional theme that I am working with in this life. Sun person helps Lilith person recognize their subconscious gifts and strengths. With the Lilith conjunct sun, the Sun person is seduced by the other Lilith person. For more context, Nessus/BML dont aspect anything else except a grand trine with Mercury/MC and Jupiter. He has a strong nessus (conjunct with his sun + true node in cancer ). There is also a near-exact conjunction of his north node to my Eros. And how did you arrive at the conclusion that Nessus and Dejanira are indicative of abuse? Thank you, Lo and Welcome You lose about 25% but still have about 75%. on Dejanira and Nessus. Or can both apply? If it has not of yet, it may be a new relationship. The wonderful thing about this aspect, especially with the conjunction is that love is brought into the lives of both, even if . Theyre both devoted and kind people and Ive known her since we were teens. When Lilith and Mars team up in synastry, there's nothing they can't do. Free Horoscopes charts, calculations Birth Natal Chart Online Calculator Ascendant, Rising Sign Calculator Astro Portrait: Sun, Moon, ASC Personal Daily Horoscope Transit Chart Calculator Secondary Progressions Solar Arc, Solar Return, Prognoses Synastry, Composite, Davison Chart Traditional Astrology Calculator Sidereal Astrology Calculator Draconic Astrology Calculator Various astrology . I think there are very few people who actually manage to overcome childhood abuse, and not without a long painful journey and negative experiences. In mythology, Eros was the god of sexual love and desire. Talk about deep dark sexual desiresTremendous sexual need to control. so, quick question, where do I post it? We are dealing with very primal emotions here and we all know what primal emotions and passions can do if a person is not careful. Things to look for in synastry: Here we focus on indications of sexual attraction using Astrology as our tool. The charts tell all. To summarize, I would say that Mars/Pluto could be passionate sex and passionate emotions but no soul.If a chart had no Moon aspects and Mars/Pluto aspects, I would say it would be a fling. With asteroids, I would accept a 3 degree conjunction, tops. Yes, that is a good way to put it. Yet despite this fearsome reputation she was often dismissed as " a minor Babylonian wind deity " or similar. As such, Nessus seems out to be the abuser and Deja the victim. I'm so cappy Knowflake . Mars/Pluto is more primal in a pure sexual way than Moon/Pluto which is more emotional and much more emotionally bonded. His touch is all at once sexual, creative and spiritual. orb). To learn more about the past life, look at the aspect, the houses in which the planets sit, and the signs. Synastry: Sun square Pluto, sun conjunct Amor, sun conjunct psyche, Pluto conjunct moon, Venus square Pluto, (they have Venus square Pluto)natal also, mars sextile Venus, Mars conjunct Sappho and trine Uranus (they have mars square Uranus natal mars) tine Jupiter, Venus conjunct Neptune and sun conjunct Venus and Eros square Pluto, Eros conjunct kaali, Venus conjunct kaali all opposite Nessus!! This really highlights this magnetic quality to this conjunction and creates a situation where each individual holds the . Thank you F for being here and for taking the time to comment.What do you mean exactly? Nessus conj the NN in the natal would be a person who would likely be abusive. This only works with a synastry chart, and (as always) is simply my own opinion! it would be such a fortunate relationship with his Jupiter conjunct my ASC in synastry, and Venus-Jupiter exact composite conjunction right on his natal Sun! Maybe, maybe not. This aspect can bring intense emotions, profound personal growth, and the potential for both positive and negative experiences. It is sad! Hi Amiann, how do you think nessus square neptune would play out in synastry, lets say if its almost exact. I know it is not funny but the charts will play out, in my experience, anyway. I seemed to be destined to study and use Nessus and Deja. When/if that turns bad, it could become dark. Pick your top two questions and I will try to help, my Friend! I often am able to get away in time, and at other times I can get away only to a certain degree. Youll always want to look at the chart as a whole, read everything as a metaphors, and use your intuition. I wasnt abused as a child in any way. I am one person with one persons experience, of course. Next, I have uncovered that in my Draconic Dejanira is 1 degree conjunct my natal Scorpio Moon. Moon conjunct Lilith EXACT Moon conjunct Destinn EXACT Venus square Mars EXACT Also, I try to be very direct to counter the tendency in many Astrologer not to take a stand. Does this mean anything? Thanks! Copyright [the-year] [site-link] | This website is intended for entertainment purposes only. I'm not typically the "make him suffer" type, but holy wow did it all come rushing out with him. There is the potential to take things to another realm when the aspects are favorable. I know this is an article for synastry, but Im a little worried about my natal chart after reading about Nessus and Dejanira. Would an eighth house overlay make these destructive or strengthen ? 10. Hello, what a great article, thank you. I've never had a more natural and effortless sexual connection to someone in my life, and it blinded me to a lot of things. It wasn't until he began to withhold sex from me that I finally crumbled. Dark sexual relationship synastry top 5 | Signing. What use is reams of esoteric info for real life applications. Can you relate to it or are just worried in general lol. Lots of good aspects so thats why the Nessus Dejanira confuses me. Moon oppose Pluto and Moon square Pluto could tend to be dark because they are powerful and not with a harmonious flow. Love, There are no planets conjunct or square either Nessue or Dejanira in either chart, the only conjunction is her Dejanira to his Nessus. Well, maybe, but dont most abusers have a history of childhood abuse themselves? its more like the astrology helps me to fill in the pictures. Thats weird. I dont want people to get the wrong idea and then get scared over a small aspect. Your email address will not be published. You say that you want a nuclear passionate relationship. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. I have only had this fantasy with him along with begging him and many many other fantasies. Check out our 40+ page relationship astrology eBook! Thanks :), We all have Liliths plutonic quality in us, the unconscious energy that brings up harsh boundaries between life and death, ecstasy and suffering, passion and revulsion, enslavement and freedom. It is a pleasure to be here. I read all these comments and yes they are interesting. Sydney, you are amazing. Posts: 83From: 8th houseRegistered: Jan 2014, Posts: 50409From: Saturn next to CharmaineRegistered: Apr 2009, Copyright 2000-2015 The issue is telling people that are in healthy relationships or people that are around a couple in a healthy relationship, that those aspects will certainly play out no matter what. What is your opinion on Thank you for your comment. xx. What about this aspects? Can it be dangerous amiann? what would result from this? BUT my dejanira is conjunct with his sun by one degree and my dejanira is also in the same degree as my AC What does that mean? Required fields are marked *. Wow, Pluto conj the DSC may be looking for partners who have strong primal power and you may not have accessed your own. I will come back and answer when I have time to really look at the details. I have some extreme aspects and I shudder to think how they would be expressed had I not had saturn at the top of my chart who keeps things in check via a grand trine involving some big bad planets.
