The parent of this cartridge is the .30-06 Springfield, which is necked-up to accept a bullet diameter of .358 in (9.1 mm).This cartridge is more powerful than its parent, especially in killing power on large game. Either of the other two cartridges mentioned will work just fine also. Thought about that 375 Ruger but nah. As a result of all this activity, .358-inch diameter jacketed rifle bullets are available in a wide range of weights and styles, from 150-grain semipointed to 200- grain roundnose, all the way up to 310 grains for the heaviest game. Honestly, the concept of being overgunned is somewhat mystifying to me, provided you can place the shot. Quite honestly, the .350 Rigby isnt a cartridge Id describe as practical, but if you are looking for something quite left of center, this may be for you. The body of the .350 Magnum measures 0.517 inches at the base, smaller than the 0.589-inch base of the .416 Rigby. This load uses a 200 grain Flex-Tip spitzer bullet and delivers a MV of 2225 fps and ME of 2198 ft. lbs. Follow along to see exactly how. The .358 Norma can be loaded down to duplicate the performance of either of the two smaller cartridges. I have no experience with the Norma mag. On those gray, moody November days when I am feeling blue I take my Remington Model 141 pump-action rifle in .35 Rem. We've got you covered. .22 LR7mm-08 Remington8mm Remington Magnum.338 Federal.224 Valkyrie.338-06 A-Square9.3x62mm Mauser.257 Weatherby Magnum.45-70 Government.300 H&H Magnum.25-06 Remington.30-06 Springfield6.5 Creedmoor.300 Remington Ultra Magnum7mm Remington Magnum.470 Nitro Express.280 Remington.300 Winchester Magnum.270 Winchester.222 Remington.45 ACP.404 Jeffery.44 Remington Magnum.41 Remington Magnum.243 Winchester.338 Winchester Magnum.357 S&W Magnum6.5-284 Norma8x57 Mauser.38 Smith & Wesson Special7x57mm Mauser9 mm Luger.35 Whelen.454 Casull.375 H&H Magnum.45 Colt.22-250 Remington10mm Auto.308 Winchester. and is a good cartridge for hunting the thick woods for deer, hogs, black bear or even elk. .50 Beowulf. There are many good choices, and shot placement is more important than case dimensions and bullet diameter. Thier wouldn't be any action mods required to do the Whelen,just rebarrel and enjoy. First, it will do everything the .338 will, and a bit more. Tried and true. If you match the bullet to the game, this is one of the all-time great hunting cartridges. Hunting Shack 35WHELEN1N Game King 35 Whelen 225 gr Sierra GameKing Spitzer Boat-Tail - 20rd Box. Had the .358 Norma Magnum been chambered in an American rifle, or at least promoted by an American company, the popularity of the cartridge may have been much greater than it is. and .32 Rem. I have used this cartridge on moose with excellent results. Shaw rifles 24-inch barrel. With such a variety of bullets, you would think the skys the limit in terms of different loads, but there are other factors to consider. would follow that tradition. But in my experience, if you can cover that 300-yard window with confidence youre in good shape. Thats a question I just dont understand. The cartridge would be championed by Denys Finch Hatton (of Out of Africa fame), John Pondoro Taylor and Pete Pearson, and would be used by Baron Bror von Blixen-Fineke as well. and .35 Rem., it was an excellent woods rifle for hunting whitetails. This means that the momentum of a rifle's reaction will exactly equal the momentum of the bullet and powder gasses ejected from the barrel. With the best loads, my Remington Model 700 is one-hole accurate. Shortening the 2.85-inches long .375 H&H case wasnt exactly a revolutionary ideathat little-known .275 H&H so closely resembles the design of the half-century younger 7mm Remington Magnum that its uncannybut with the Winchester marketing machine the concept was brought to the forefront. Mag. The nearest of any to the .358 Norma was the .35 Newton, which it closely resembles. I think Jack OConnor, the great champion of the .270, would agree. Why the .35 Rem. An earlier Western Cartridge load delivered 2,660 fps, which I suspect is closer to the truth. The rifle, cartridge, and bullet must be capable of handling that one opportunity. So are the .350 Remington Magnum and .358 Norma Magnum. Whelen would not. Ruger briefly chambered the M77 rifle in .35 Whelen. The .35 Whelen is a fine elk cartridge. The full spectrum of our many 7mms, from 7mm-08 and 7x57 on up to the fastest 7mm magnums, are also fine, but they are not magical giant-slayers. If you happen to have a .35 and don't mind the extra recoil, there is no denying that it will flat get the job done. Sure, we experiment a bit with other bore sizes, but in the end it always comes back to the .30 caliber. Where does the .358 Norma sit, in comparison to the more popular cartridges in its class? The quest for an acceptable .35 has inspired such impotent wastes as the .35 Winchester Self Loader, once labeled a candidate for the title: Worlds Most Useless Center-Fire Rifle Cartridge.. Of the bullets used, several performed extremely well, including the Bear Claw and a Nosler 250-grain Partition. X-Vision Optics long-range ImpactThermal Scope (TS300) boasts a 640 x 480 thermal sensor that can detect big game well past 3,000 yards. Alas, to the best of my knowledge, its not imported to the U.S. Recoil was completely manageable, and it inspired me to begin the journey of having my own .350 Rigby rifle built. So are the .350 Remington Magnum and .358 Norma Magnum. Im going to rule out short-range cartridges that have the power because theres no sense in making the shot more difficult than necessary. It is very accurate, easy to carry and fast on the target. Among my own favorites for the .358 Norma are the Nosler Partitions in both 225 and 250 grains, Swift A-Frames (225, 250, 280) and various Woodleighs, including the unique 310-grain Weldcore. a good brush buster and good to 300 yards. Mag.They have almost identical case capacity, but the .358 Norma Mag. Campfire 'Bwana. If the .35 Rem. With a 200-grain bullet at 2460 f.p.s., it is a heavy-hitter on whitetails. This is basically a deer and black bear (CXP2 class game) cartridge, although it is reputed to be superior to cartridges in the .30-30 class for game weighing over about 400 pounds. An elk is bigger than anything most deer hunters have encountered, but theres still a variance; a cow for the freezer isnt much bigger than a very large deer, but a mature bull elk is different. Mag.-all with a bigger, heavier bullet that will punch a bigger hole and penetrate deeper. Synthetic stocks arent always lighter than wood, but they are stronger and more stable, and elk hunting can be hard on rifles. As a "stopper" for use on dangerous game the .358 Norma is clearly superior to the .300 Magnums. After ten years of not getting drawn I sold it it was too much gun for most of my hunting. The .35 Whelen has a relatively simple design: it's a .30-06 Springfield case necked up to use .358 instead of .308 bullets (the exact opposite of the .270 Winchester in other words). Energy figures have it knocking at the door of 375H&H. I have become a 35 cal. The H-4895 load given in the table is not from any manual but was worked up with the assistance of Hodgdon ballistician Ron Reiber. Mag. Norma loads their 250-grain Oryx bullet to this velocity, and as the rear portion of the bullet is bonded, it will give an excellent blend of expansion and penetration. The .358 is vastly underated as the Whelen. In both cartridges, versatility is limited more by the narrow range of bullets available than by any other factor. Powders such as IMRs Trail Boss, Accurates 5744 and IMRs discontinued SR-4759 all work with lighter bullets, and sometimes accuracy is very good, even if the gas seal is not. It will kill farther than that, of course, but that is its optimum range. However, the majority of American deer hunters dont live in elk country, but many dream of going elk hunting. Heres how to avoid the poseurs and choose the right one. The softpoints were used for the various antelope species, dangerous cats and even buffalo, while the full-patch, non-expanding solids would be used on elephant. The Hornady Superformance load for the .35 Whelen launches a 200-grain bullet at a blistering. By Layne Simpson. pushes a 200-grain bullet to just more than 2000 f.p.s. Twenty years ago, I might have said .338 Winchester Magnum was the perfect choice for elk. This stumpy little cartridge was introduced to the hunting public in 1908 and is the only surviving member of the early class of Remington rimless cartridges. and the .32 Win. factory load is a 250-grain Oryx bullet listed with a muzzle velocity of 2723 f.p.s. The .35 Whelen is accurate, hits hard, penetrates deep, shoots flat and recoils mildly. Particularly when you consider that every one of those newer short magnum cartridges burns more powder to achieve less killing power than the .350 Rem. in an 8.5 pound rifle, is comparable to the much more popular but less effective (on CXP3 class game) .300 Weatherby or .300 Remington Ultra Magnums. As many hunters know, the Remington Model 600 carbine, which was introduced in 1964, was one of the first short, light, bolt-action rifles to find success with deer hunters. Your rifle is your most important hunting tool, and knowing how to properly clean and store it when hunting season comes to a close is critical in keeping it in tip-top shape. As a "stopper" for use on dangerous game the .358 Norma is clearly superior to the .300 Magnums. Among the .35 caliber cartridges popular in the United States, the .358 offered a definite step up in performance; the .35 Remingtonthat popular woods rifleis much slower than the .358, and though the .35 Whelen has been among us since 1922, it would remain a wildcat until 1988. Size aside, American elk are very tough creatures. This is comparable killing power to the long .375 H&H Magnum with a 300 grain bullet (ME 4331 ft. Publisher, Kevin Steele is with Brett Marquardt from Streamlight Inc. discussing the new Streamlight Pro Tac 2.0, the latest edition in the Pro Tac series. Hunting Shack 358NORMA2N Game King 358 Norma 225 gr Sierra GameKing Spitzer Boat-Tail - 20rd Box. Now, I have to go out on a limb and say that sensible elk cartridges arent all about power. I did secure properly head stamped Norma cases thinking we'd need them going over into the Yukon (no one ever checked). .35 caliber rifle cartridges have been around practically forever without ever really becoming popular. I wont go so far as to say thats foolish, but theres a major difference in size and toughness between a cow or spike and a mature bull. A medium variable in the 3-9X or 2.5-10X range should be enough scope for elk hunting. Why cant we love the .35? The ammunition hung on a while longer, but eventually Big Green abandoned her babies and stopped making both cartridges. Sometimes you get a point-blank shot; other times you need to stretch it a bit farther. Got a nice .270 Win MTN Rifle donor 700. I was wrong. In 1965 Remington took it to the next level with the introduction of the Model 600 Magnum Carbine. On the other hand, you must hit it well, because if poorly hit, an elk shows strength and stamina and may cover many miles of tough country. While most of the .35 caliber rifle cartridges are powerful medium bore numbers designed for use on large (CXP3) game like elk and moose, the most popular .35 caliber rifle cartridge is the .35 Remington. The first time I ever hunted with a .358 Norma Magnum, it was a custom rifle built on a Mauser Mark X action. The 6.5mm Creedmoor and the old 6.5x55 are sound minimal choices, adequate to 300 yards. Synthetic wins over laminate because laminates, strongest of all, are also heaviest. We owe a debt of gratitude to the engineers at the British firm of Holland & Holland; though it is lost to history who exactly designed the belted magnum cartridge, the .275 and .375 Holland & Holland Magnums were game changers. That version is in some dispute, with evidence that Whelen himself developed the cartridge or at least worked with Howe on its development. I have one, and I like it a lot. Common loads fire a 200-grain bullet at 2,800 fps (about 3,480 foot pounds of energy), a 225-grain bullet at around 2,600fps (3,380 foot pounds of energy . Back in 1983 Winchester introduced the .356 Win. The sad truth is that the active list of current .35-caliber rifles and cartridges is tragically short. I was used to the 30-06 parent cases (.270, 25-06, etc) so that is what I decided on. It never got up. Today the .35 caliber family, at least in North America, includes the .357 Magnum, .35 Remington, .356 Winchester, .358 Winchester, .35 Whelen, .350 Remington Magnum and .358 Norma Magnum. You know the kind with the locking bolt. For the handloader, as the accompanying table demonstrates, the .358 Norma Magnum provides an almost unbelievable range of possibilities, from loads light enough for gallery shooting to heavy enough. Also, many of these hunters have the luxury of a long season close to home. But have owned multiple 9.3s and Whelens. The Whelen is a more sensible choice, but the Rigby isnt about sensibility, its about nostalgia and a connection to a bygone age. My 35 Whelen will run 250gr partitions at 2700 fps with power pro 2000 powder. The .25 Rem., .30 Rem. The long accepted story was that James V. Howe developed the cartridge in 1922 and named it in honor of his friend, gunwriter Col. Townsend Whelen. Today, it is strictly a custom proposition unless one of the original rifles chambered for it can be found. and a 250-grain Partition load with a muzzle velocity of 2550 f.p.s. Elk bullets must be tough enough to provide adequate penetration. of muzzle energy. Then come the .270s. The .358 Norma Magnum, like the .358 Shooting Times Alaskan, generates a considerable amount of energy, but due to the caliber restrictions for dangerous game of most of the African countries, it falls shy of the markthe .375-inch bore is minimum for many countries. During the spring conservation order, you can hunt with outfitters from Arkansas to Saskatchewan. Kevin Steele stops by the Taurus booth to speak with Cody Osborn about the all new Raging Hunter platform from Taurus International. From the .35 Winchester (1903), .35 Remington (1906) and .351 Winchester Self-Loading (1907) to the later .358 Winchester (1955) and .350 Remington Magnum (1965), there has always been at least one .35-caliber cartridge in use. I have a .356 Win. From the Green Goblin (a bolt-action rifle I built on a Remington action), both will produce groups that are sub-minute-of-angle. That being said, with much wider availability, and the higher . DoubleTap loads the 180-grain Barnes TTSX bullet at 3100 fps, and the 225-grain Swift A-Frame at 3000 fps, giving options to the hunter who wants the most versatility from their big-game rifle. .500 Nitro Express. Now, I have to go out on a limb and say that sensible elk cartridges aren't all about power. Bertram Brass from Australia is a good source when you can get it, and Quality Cartridge makes a run of .350 Rigby every few years, but you could be waiting a considerable amount of time. At 400 yds., the .358 Norma impacts 3.1 inches lower than the .300 Win. It was predictable that the .356 Win. The .357 Magnum revolver cartridge has also gained considerable popularity as a combination rifle/pistol cartridge and lever action rifles for the .357 Magnum sell pretty well. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. It is capable of driving a. Layne Simpson did an article on the comparison of the two and it was reprinted in Big Bore Rifles and Cartridge ISBN 1-879356-00-7. Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Read today's "The Armed Citizen" entry for real stories of law-abiding citizens, past and present, who used their firearms to save lives. Nils Kvaleone of the chief designers at Normahad experimented with a shortened .300 H&H case, necked to hold 8mm bullets, with the rim turned down to match the 8x57 rim diameter. when fired in a 7.5 pound rifle. The hunter from afar, journeying into unfamiliar country, must also accept the pressure of a limited period of time and the knowledge that it may come down to just one chance. The trouble is, they didnt sell. While I generally prefer the former over the latter, I think that both choices are effective. Your at the old delema again: does 200 fps matter to the deer. has been offered in just about every rifle action type ever conceived and a few handguns. Perhaps thats how it should be, the masses rarely embrace true greatness. Frankly, I would not want to be without them. the problem in this debate is we are crossing over in calibres, which means thrust on different sized pistons. There was a time when I questioned the adequacy of the .270 for elk.
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